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I believe we have officially begun folks

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um we are coming at you live

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from Northampton Massachusetts in this

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gorgeous Optimum theater called The

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Academy of Music Theater just fantastic

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we are fresh uh from seeing aerial

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phenomenon and uh tonight we have some

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very special guests

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um we have behind me and on your screen

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it will be somewhere around spring we

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who is here and uh Gunter was pretty

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close to one of the first people

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investigators that came on the sea beach

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before John Mack did and um so he did

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his own research can't wait to dig into

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that and uh we have a really special

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guest really streamer

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uh so yay with me streamer

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who is a paranormal Advocate and God

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knows we need it sometimes

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um he's also wrote the hauntingly uh

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poignant Memoir

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um and almost a thriller communion as

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well as one of my favorite films

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um the Hunter and Wilson and he is here

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with us via Santa Monica Los Angeles

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thank you for being here Whitley

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okay

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and then to my uh far right over here we

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have Christopher

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Stewart who is um the the editor and

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co-writer with Randall but he's also a

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badass exercise

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um so if you have a film or you need

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some magic sauces the guy to go he did

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Fahrenheit and 11 sicko a whole bunch of

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stuff

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set alarm great to have him here as well

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and then next to me

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is uh the man that were is the reason

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that we're all here which is uh Randall

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Nickerson who is the writer director of

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aerial phenomenon

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and um

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I'm gonna start off right now with a few

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randomly first question so it took 15

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years to make this

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in in human child years the same time it

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takes to raise a child to their first

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grade of high school

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so this is kind of like like that so if

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you trade this for a teenager or not no

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no no

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no uh yeah the it's taken

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ly long

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in the way but

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years

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I started as a DVD project that I was

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going to do with just John Mac's

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material on them then I had to start

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asking questions

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led me to Africa

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uh just getting more and more

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information and one of the things that

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worked well with the time going by

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was in raising money and trying to

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you know pay to play so maybe you have

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it's taken a long time but uh the more

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the longer the time that I spent the

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more information I got more people

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contacted me and I really took the deep

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whole perspective of this phenomena in

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general as a world view since we're

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using those terms from John Mack uh has

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shifted in our favor to being much more

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receptive and open to this to you know

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uh the military is going to be much more

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uh forthcoming uh in the Pentagon as

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the openness to the start really in

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uh in the Pentagon the guy who led the

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telegram program investigating these

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that's a mind blower

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um so anyway again

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so yeah we do have a lot of questions

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because we have a live audience

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um so those on Zoom or or the uh or

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YouTube or the other social media can't

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see what we have they have pretty good

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uh turn up here for this Premiere and we

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do have questions that we will get to

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later sorry we won't be able to get to

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any chat have any questions because of

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our technology here I might throw up

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how did you come on board this and how

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did we infect you with this compelling

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it took a minute I'm not gonna lie uh I

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mean I've known Randall since high

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school that's that's the connection we

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went to high school together so pretty

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and then he was working on this project

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and I was very skeptical

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and then I watched the footage and I

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really sunk into the footage and then I

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was like there's a great story here and

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there's just a great story here whatever

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you believe at the end of the day I mean

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it's just a great story and that's what

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I do in the Storyteller so I like to

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tell good stories and this is a great

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story

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um and in the course of doing that I

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I've seen anything other than these kids

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that has come close to convincing me of

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proof If you will and even that's not

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proof to some people but those kids are

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not lying

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this isn't uh just for if there's anyone

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out there who in our audience that just

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saw the film but for those of you who

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are listening the aerial School

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phenomena uh happened in 1994 and it

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involved 60 plus kids who

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um saw basically a craft plan and three

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beans cap and it was also witnessed by a

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teacher and um and this was brought me

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this was a you know sleep paralysis or

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anything this has happened and um and so

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uh this this whole film and everything

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came about that one event in 1994 and

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everyone still you know sticks buyers

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you'll see in the film it's fantastic

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it's not a UFO documentary it's a

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documentary period it's beautiful uh

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with the visitors uh what do you think

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the the fact that they

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did not come these visitors do not come

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at night they did not you know take you

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whether you wanted to come or not they

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they had this interaction it was very

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profound and some of them received

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messages and stuff as well

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and they were able to like have that

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experience and walk away that was it for

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you it's been this lifelong thing it

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does not get had any other encounters

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but as usually there are some you know

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side effects when you see this what is

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this like for you to see this story what

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was your your first reaction when you

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heard about those cases you've seen

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and he said we talked a lot the reason

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he was told me was because of the

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environment had come from the children

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uh an intelligence machine and he just

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said if I was an intelligent machine I

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with technology to see exact Direction

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that those entities warned those

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move on to the Gunther to the same kind

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of question

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when you came after the fact that you've

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been studying the phenomenon for a while

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there's another border

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so how did you come into this and and

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this is what did you know about the

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several years later where where are you

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kind of sit with this is this something

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that that you've carried along with you

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do you feel like in a lot of ways

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because I know that people who

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don't just have that experience with

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people who are around that and talk to

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people sometimes you have your own kind

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of side effects from its do you feel

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like um there's been a really strong

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I mean I've I've counted this throughout

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the things ever since you know and funny

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environmental organization called Action

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so I was involved in environmental

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issues so this is message resonates with

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it doesn't leave me it just kind of like

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I just think about this case ever since

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it brings back those messages again and

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hope that there's going to be some

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change but

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sometimes when I see some of the

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government decisions that have been made

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it's

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because we seem to be falling back into

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the old

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you know here we the government is

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celebrating because we're having a few

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crisis because of the Ukrainian War

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Etc in Europe and uh

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instead of the government's three

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investing into you know like renewable

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energies which are becoming quotes

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cheap now

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they go into like tracking letters

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putting more money towards more drilling

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for oil Etc which are resources that are

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limited and causes of problems that we

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seen in the world opens up the final

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So Randy when you started out pursuing

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this what was your first idea of what

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this movie was going to be about and how

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um

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that was uh

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I really didn't know what the movie was

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going to be about in the beginning I I

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felt like because there's hours and

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hours and hours and hours of these kids

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not only did John Mack and the BBC

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interview them Mickey Carter

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uh

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seven different sources all at different

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times

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from the you know the right away to a

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week later two weeks later six months

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later or a year later and then a year

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and a half later

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so my first idea was why don't I just

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play the footage Raw

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[Laughter]

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sorry

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I don't think that was a was a great

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idea but uh

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that's the way it impacted me I'm like

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wow this is fascinating just watching

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the raw footage

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um and then I I kind of shifted into a

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mode of

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of trying to make sure this really

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happened

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um and that's when I kind of lost my I

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wasn't doing creative things anymore I

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was doing investigation work and

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um being an investigative journalist and

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it was that was nothing I expected to do

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um

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and just started collecting data data

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data data data recording reviews and

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trying to prove it about through the

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first I think I've made this film five

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times

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uh I did the more science version in the

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beginning of

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uh you know telling you exact times and

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Google

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you know everything like a

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um

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and

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then I reached a point where I was

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convinced

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uh and that took years

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um

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and it had to do with the the archival

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footage and also would have to do with

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the adult Witnesses who I interviewed

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and most

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um a lot of like people that I couldn't

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interview I think I said it before but

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um

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didn't want to uh

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be on camera and um that said a lot

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then uh and then Christopher came along

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and uh

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uh

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he schooled me I gotta tell you you know

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he he he schooled me and it's really

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true

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um and got me back into the creative and

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looked at the story in a way I never

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looked at it which is just the story

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um and leaving people's opinions leave

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it up to them and not try to prove

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anything

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you know it's like this is the story

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that's why I chose not to to use a

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narrator uh Dan Acker everyone Dan

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Aykroyd wanted to narrate this film and

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I had to stay at home today but you

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turned down a Ghostbuster I did

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and I didn't want to at all I thought

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that was been really cool if I had made

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a decision that

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you know the people that need to tell

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this story isn't me

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and do I have enough footage so they can

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tell out all first person you know no

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third person no I heard this none of

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that

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and um

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yeah Christopher was key to helping me

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figure out how to tell it it's a

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complicated story and there's so many

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stories like there are rough couples

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four hours

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yeah they cut it down to a hour and a

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half and

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you know and I shot 600 hours of film

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so we rolled all that down to an hour

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and a half

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and when Christopher came along

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um

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things started to happen and then I had

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set in also that this is a lot of work

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uh not that it happened to this point

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but I owe a lot to Chris I owe a lot to

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over to Rick I owe a lot to Rebecca

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right I was here she's been amazing

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and uh

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Korean announcements as well

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missing Eminem

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oh yeah it was pretty it was pretty

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gorilla filming I have to tell you I'm

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the editor and I shot a second muted

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camera there you go yeah like I did

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every single day every single job and uh

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that was cool it really it was fun but

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it was really difficult yeah

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a question for our president sorry we've

428
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had sound issues so we were texting and

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so hopefully it's remedy to come there

430
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and going back and forth between our

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operation so hopefully it's been Revenue

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um Christopher when did you come into

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this as you see his first cut or did you

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just get the footage of Luke wrong no I

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I saw the I guess the investigative

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the maps and the arrows and the dates

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there

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and all of that

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and I just you know from my perspective

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it

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what convinces me is

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and I find in all documentaries

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um it's gotten so bad now with all the

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polarization fake facts and all this

445
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crap in the old days facts were fast you

446
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tell a story made fun facts and you

447
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:01,200
can't do that anymore

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so the only way to really shift your

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veto is emotions

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um

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and those kids I mean we had a

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psychologists psychiatrists watch this

453
00:25:15,049 --> 00:25:13,500
and they're all like they're not lying

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you know

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so that's that's why that was

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essentially why and then as Randall said

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I mean I just tell stories so I try as

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synthesized the brain you know and the

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footage that we were able to capture and

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working together to

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make it

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you know a story well it was a great

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partnership

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um quickly you knew John Mack

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and

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both of you kind of uh everything I mean

467
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you're started in the

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later 80s John came in a feed later

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um what had you heard about this case in

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regard to John and did he talk to you

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about it before he went or when he came

472
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:01,559
back well yeah we talked about it at

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least he was uh he as I said earlier

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he telephone me and said that he had

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just gotten back from Africa and he's

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taken a lot of film and he thought it

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but I also there was something else we

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00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:15,950
they were their their civilization was

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00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:17,220
evolving

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wouldn't we try harder to warn them

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than to go to a few school children in

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an obscure corner of Africa

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and

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the this morning is

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00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:34,620
it's persistent in the close encounter

486
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:37,500
experience it's that's not the only

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place that that warning has been heard

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00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:43,799
it's been heard by many many witnesses

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00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:47,460
but the whole phenomenon is so

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marginalized

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that the message doesn't really matter

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in the larger world

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and

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I would think that if it was us going to

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another planet

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one of the first things we would do

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would be to try to figure out enough

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of their way their social flow works to

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go to the individuals

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who could do something

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about the problem they were identifying

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but this is not what is happening here

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on Earth

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and it's it's very concerning to me

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because we're really very far down the

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road that they warned us about at the

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Ariel School event

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and I don't I'm concerned there's going

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to be soon though going back it says

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isn't already true

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and what can we say I mean they've

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warned us

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it seems a lot like um

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whenever I talk to people about this

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00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:02,279
case I I get the same thing I get so

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why go there and not on the White House

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00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:08,400
law well there have been Advocates out

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00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:10,679
there adult Advocates screaming that we

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00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:13,140
needed help forever and so maybe it's

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00:29:17,149 --> 00:29:14,760
time to skip that because that's not

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00:29:19,130 --> 00:29:17,159
working and go to the next Channel

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00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,140
and say hey here's what's going on in

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00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:21,600
1994 it was before it was what it was

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00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:24,600
now before technology and

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um and so maybe it needed to get the

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reboot and start fresh

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um Gunter so when you came out there

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um I'm curious did you

529
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:37,799
talking to the kids unfortunately we

530
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:40,380
don't have any of the children that

531
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Randy worked with I ran to work with on

532
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us but um did you get a sense of these

533
00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:48,179
kids like how was your barometer because

534
00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:50,220
you know you're around kids

535
00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:52,860
kids you know when they're fabricating

536
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,659
stuff and they're giving to you know

537
00:30:01,070 --> 00:29:57,120
Flights of Fancy what was your take on

538
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:03,470
about the kids stay critical to be

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00:30:07,090 --> 00:30:04,559
honest

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the situations particularly in like a

541
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:13,159
school environment for the year

542
00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:15,960
they're quite strict and everything so

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00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:17,460
if she's lying they have all that kind

544
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,360
of you know the kids would be terrified

545
00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:23,039
to make up a story

546
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:25,740
the security in that situation

547
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,380
from every case we spoke to one or the

548
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:30,600
other they all come to be pieces a very

549
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:33,960
similar story they saw the craft at the

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end of the field

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um

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00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,320
someone had a farm probably saw the the

553
00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:42,240
preachers even the description of the

554
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creatures they saw and how they moved

555
00:30:48,730 --> 00:30:47,039
was unique it's not something that you

556
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,740
can visit

557
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:51,600
you know like the kids were describing

558
00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:53,220
some of the creatures like moving in

559
00:31:18,470 --> 00:30:57,659
slow motion or appearing disappeared in

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[Music]

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because grammas it didn't see any

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00:31:40,570 --> 00:31:38,220
impressions in the ground

563
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:40,580
so when I came out the following weekend

564
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:44,460
for the work colleague I scanned the

565
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ground when I found

566
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,559
two overall shapes in the ground within

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00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:51,600
the wrong grass where the other boys

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00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,299
told me they saw some craft around it

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00:31:58,750 --> 00:31:56,399
and

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00:32:01,730 --> 00:31:58,760
funny enough together slightly uh

571
00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:01,740
clockwise swirled in each of the ovals

572
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one large oval and once all over

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and it also took samples of the soil

574
00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:11,659
sentences

575
00:32:15,789 --> 00:32:14,820
we didn't find anything unusual as a

576
00:32:18,889 --> 00:32:15,799
sample

577
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:18,899
that came out

578
00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:22,620
and also um yeah one of the most amazing

579
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,330
mm-hmm

580
00:32:58,190 --> 00:32:55,440
I'm going to thank you Governor I'm

581
00:33:00,169 --> 00:32:58,200
going to uh to uh

582
00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:00,179
talk go through some of the questions

583
00:33:04,430 --> 00:33:03,000
here and see if we can answer that uh no

584
00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:04,440
guarantees we're going to give your

585
00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:12,649
um that will appease everyone but uh

586
00:33:15,049 --> 00:33:13,559
um

587
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:15,059
Worthy

588
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,399
I want to talk about here being an

589
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,320
experiencer this is someone of the

590
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,360
audience here being an experiencer I am

591
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:24,480
curious about any of these students

592
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,600
um still being contacted that you know

593
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,409
me yeah well

594
00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:36,000
um go ahead Gunter if you want to yeah

595
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:37,740
go ahead doctor and thank you Gunther

596
00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:39,899
for uh doing a good job while you were

597
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:40,740
there

598
00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:43,679
really like at least you covered all the

599
00:33:50,220 --> 00:34:00,120
sorry

600
00:34:09,470 --> 00:34:06,190
[Music]

601
00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:09,480
we had some of the kids some of them are

602
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:11,820
living in the UK because a lot of them

603
00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:15,740
scattered after the event and this

604
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:19,399
the school authorities they were getting

605
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:22,200
that the kids have been Disturbed so

606
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:24,260
much we never had opportunity

607
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:27,179
to actually speak to the kids

608
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,080
because a lot of parents or some of the

609
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:33,839
parents are upset about it

610
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,540
thank you even this

611
00:34:40,849 --> 00:34:38,820
John have Colin Macklemore the

612
00:34:42,430 --> 00:34:40,859
Headmaster this woman happy what's

613
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:42,440
happened because it was kind of like

614
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:45,060
disturbing the kids yes and some of the

615
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:48,960
kids were asked because so we respected

616
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:51,599
that and we left them

617
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:55,440
um obviously Randolph which you know has

618
00:34:58,070 --> 00:34:57,300
done a fantastic job checking out a lot

619
00:35:01,010 --> 00:34:58,080
of

620
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,020
the witnesses and people involved in the

621
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,599
case was able to go back

622
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:06,000
while they are adults now and actually

623
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:08,099
assaulted

624
00:35:12,589 --> 00:35:09,240
um

625
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:12,599
I mean for myself we never really had

626
00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:14,040
to track those kids

627
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:16,980
later now because there's a lot of

628
00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:20,040
turmoilers in Broadway soon after with

629
00:35:33,370 --> 00:35:25,900
the politics there uh I left Zimbabwe

630
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:36,290
in the UK

631
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:39,839
um I would love to talk in detail with

632
00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:40,730
us

633
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:45,780
and what she feels after this yes

634
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:48,780
or children spoken to more often than I

635
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,470
um

636
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,829
let's kind of go right into uh the big

637
00:36:01,790 --> 00:35:59,760
question here

638
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,800
um on scale from one to ten in your one

639
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:03,599
here you can answer some scale of one to

640
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:06,960
ten how many is is Humanity or open

641
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:10,680
contact artificial public disclosure I

642
00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:12,780
want to get everyone to take on that

643
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:15,900
fair start with you Randy

644
00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:17,040
um

645
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:18,780
that's a really good question I think

646
00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:21,240
it's been a concern for an awfully long

647
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:22,700
time

648
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,760
uh I've been told by some people that I

649
00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:28,800
eminently

650
00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:30,359
um respect

651
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:32,579
that

652
00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:38,880
concerned with public panic

653
00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:41,220
um so

654
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:44,220
I don't know I think uh I think this is

655
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:46,140
the time and I also feel like I know

656
00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:48,660
it's just may sound strange but after

657
00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:52,140
early I understood the phenomenon more I

658
00:36:56,690 --> 00:36:53,700
realized how valuable

659
00:36:59,450 --> 00:36:56,700
this would be to any government as far

660
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,460
as putting down a card at a specific

661
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:01,680
time where we had a lot of problems you

662
00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:02,400
know

663
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:05,220
this one's gonna rock the boat

664
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:07,680
where it is it now

665
00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:10,680
and I feel like that's kind of the what

666
00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:12,900
I'm seeing

667
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:13,800
um

668
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:16,680
oh that wasn't too uh

669
00:37:22,329 --> 00:37:18,420
is that understandable give them a

670
00:37:22,339 --> 00:37:26,950
oh okay it's happening

671
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:28,550
Christopher

672
00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:31,859
I mean I think people are are uh open to

673
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:34,260
it in ways they haven't been uh however

674
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:36,180
I think they're still going to be

675
00:37:42,349 --> 00:37:39,660
freaked the hell out when it does so I

676
00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:42,359
don't know what a number is uh

677
00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:44,820
you know over five and less than ten

678
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:48,300
okay uh with the same question uh and

679
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,930
I

680
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:01,790
think that the great majority of human

681
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:05,520
beings have not been prepared in any way

682
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:06,720
whatsoever

683
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:09,660
I believe that the close of God are

684
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:10,800
witnesses

685
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:13,700
in some part are probably

686
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,400
incapable of

687
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,440
making some kind of a coherent

688
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:21,599
relationship with the visitors

689
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:25,800
but I believe if this actually came into

690
00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:29,700
General open contact it would be a

691
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,720
catastrophe uh we would would not be

692
00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:35,520
able to handle it there

693
00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:39,180
I have them in my life and they're not

694
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:41,460
easy to deal with at all

695
00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:45,240
they're very very very different from us

696
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:49,020
and there's many different shadings of

697
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:51,500
their of them as well

698
00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:54,480
if you've met one you're not by no means

699
00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:55,980
met them all

700
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,020
and uh

701
00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:00,720
a lot of plus encounter Witnesses cope

702
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,980
very well

703
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:04,560
but it takes years

704
00:39:14,829 --> 00:39:09,720
of of of work to get to the point where

705
00:39:17,329 --> 00:39:14,839
your relationship is beneficial and even

706
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:17,339
somewhat comprehensible

707
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,400
because their vision of reality is so

708
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:22,800
very different from ours

709
00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:27,660
um I think that it's possible that as

710
00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:30,900
the planet

711
00:39:36,770 --> 00:39:33,900
comes to a climax in the sense of its

712
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:36,780
ability to support life

713
00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:39,240
and that will happen well it's already

714
00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:41,400
happening but it's going to accelerate

715
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:43,380
fairly dramatically over the next few

716
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:44,460
years

717
00:39:49,849 --> 00:39:46,920
they may begin to

718
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,859
emerge in a more direct way

719
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:51,420
and

720
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:53,700
hopefully

721
00:40:00,050 --> 00:39:57,240
in some way that is helpful to us

722
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:00,060
because all the warnings we've been

723
00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:03,180
given so far as I said earlier have not

724
00:40:07,490 --> 00:40:05,460
really been very penetrated the culture

725
00:40:10,130 --> 00:40:07,500
very deeply

726
00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:10,140
um but for example

727
00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:12,180
I'm going to give you an idea of what's

728
00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:14,099
going to happen if say they showed up on

729
00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:15,540
the White House lawn the first thing

730
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,880
that would happen would be the all the

731
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:19,440
religious leaders who would start to

732
00:40:25,609 --> 00:40:21,720
speak out and uh

733
00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:25,619
uh we they would think that they were

734
00:40:33,650 --> 00:40:30,300
versions of us wearing funny skin and

735
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,660
they're not their brains are differently

736
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,000
structured and they see the universe in

737
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:38,880
an entirely different way and this they

738
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:39,900
see

739
00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:43,260
reality in a different way and us in a

740
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:46,040
very different way than we see ourselves

741
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,540
and bridging that Gap is going to be the

742
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:54,480
single greatest human achievement in

743
00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:57,480
history and probably

744
00:41:03,290 --> 00:40:59,940
quite possibly the single greatest

745
00:41:05,329 --> 00:41:03,300
achievement in their history too if it

746
00:41:08,650 --> 00:41:05,339
can even be done

747
00:41:12,410 --> 00:41:08,660
I'm going to give that a tip

748
00:41:18,349 --> 00:41:12,420
you think generous yeah

749
00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:21,290
yeah I don't I don't know how ready we

750
00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:22,500
are

751
00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:25,500
um I think for myself personally I feel

752
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,829
[Music]

753
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,990
as a whole it's all kind of taken as a

754
00:41:42,670 --> 00:41:39,839
joke

755
00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:42,680
and I had something

756
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:45,900
uh you know it's just a bit outfit

757
00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:49,200
and it's only recently probably since

758
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:52,859
the New York Times article in 2017

759
00:41:57,530 --> 00:41:55,560
and the release of some of the video

760
00:42:01,630 --> 00:41:57,540
footage from the Navy

761
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:01,640
that it has been some kind of sense of

762
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:04,079
acceptance that there is something up

763
00:42:07,130 --> 00:42:05,099
there

764
00:42:09,050 --> 00:42:07,140
but I think when they start talking

765
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:09,060
about aliens I think

766
00:42:14,170 --> 00:42:11,940
aliens is a bit too far

767
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:14,180
for people at the moment they can

768
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:18,060
accepting crafts out there but aliens on

769
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:21,660
the planet abducting us I think that's

770
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:26,569
you know unacceptable in their country

771
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:30,420
it's just beyond us we saw scientific

772
00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:47,690
[Music]

773
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:49,260
by far

774
00:42:55,730 --> 00:42:54,000
okay uh question here regarding Jean

775
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:55,740
valet

776
00:43:00,890 --> 00:42:58,560
um thank you for researching uh Jacques

777
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:00,900
has recently stated that no UFO

778
00:43:04,730 --> 00:43:03,420
encounter up in 1985 should be taken at

779
00:43:06,490 --> 00:43:04,740
new value

780
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,500
given the

781
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:08,880
documented interest of intelligence

782
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:11,099
agencies in the black

783
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:14,940
and the black heart private sector

784
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:17,760
um in staging the UFO events

785
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:19,260
um I haven't been following a decision

786
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:21,960
of your call about to myself but uh to

787
00:43:26,089 --> 00:43:24,060
what degree has anyone involved in the

788
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:26,099
production looked into the development

789
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:27,440
of

790
00:43:38,109 --> 00:43:35,640
deployed as active Sonic hops

791
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:38,119
once your clearance level again arrival

792
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:41,910
zero but you know what I have a lot from

793
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,829
I mean I just didn't go in that

794
00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:56,880
direction at all

795
00:44:00,829 --> 00:43:58,020
um

796
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:00,839
you know you sort of sift through the

797
00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:04,140
whole UFO field and now called UAP

798
00:44:08,990 --> 00:44:06,119
studies um

799
00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,000
and you know you find a little a layer

800
00:44:13,730 --> 00:44:11,460
of I don't know how to call it crazy

801
00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:13,740
people but people that are

802
00:44:19,069 --> 00:44:16,440
struggling or having a difficult time

803
00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:19,079
and then you sort of go down a layer and

804
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:21,240
you find

805
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:25,440
you know sort of a mainstream crowd and

806
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:26,940
then you go further down you probably

807
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:30,060
find these really hardcore that's really

808
00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:31,760
affected their lives

809
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:34,500
uh and that that's kind of the journey I

810
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:37,079
took too and you find figural stories

811
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:39,900
about uh different conspiracies and

812
00:44:44,690 --> 00:44:41,220
things like that

813
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:44,700
but down on D which is what my interest

814
00:44:51,170 --> 00:44:47,400
was to get to those hardcore people in

815
00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:51,180
Wisconsin who was there

816
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:52,140
um

817
00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:55,619
that was pretty surprising but uh

818
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,780
yeah that's all I can really say about

819
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:00,000
that okay

820
00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:02,520
um so one of my conspiracy

821
00:45:06,650 --> 00:45:04,140
um was there any government group that

822
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:06,660
trying to suppress the release of your

823
00:45:10,609 --> 00:45:08,280
film guys

824
00:45:14,510 --> 00:45:10,619
not to our knowledge

825
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:14,520
officially I think so I no I I don't

826
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:16,260
know some weird things have happened

827
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,660
that's all and I you know you just try

828
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:21,180
to stay away from that thinking and just

829
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:22,980
get the job done

830
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:27,970
[Music]

831
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,020
so the DMV didn't try and stop you or

832
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:34,079
the mail service no no okay

833
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,760
good to know

834
00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:37,200
um has there been any more messages

835
00:45:41,809 --> 00:45:40,500
about where we're headed as a plan for

836
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:41,819
the human race

837
00:45:45,770 --> 00:45:44,640
from these uh kids and if so what as

838
00:45:46,730 --> 00:45:45,780
like

839
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,740
you know when you're given this

840
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,720
information you ruminating everything as

841
00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:50,160
you start to make Clarity for anything

842
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:52,680
of these former students

843
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:54,599
I would say yes

844
00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:57,960
um judging by their career choices and

845
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:00,180
chosen by

846
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:03,359
charity work or things they're doing to

847
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,280
change them

848
00:46:10,970 --> 00:46:07,680
one of the parents I interviewed

849
00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,980
of the twins that are in the movie I

850
00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:13,020
asked them like what did this do to them

851
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:14,520
and

852
00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:17,700
he said to me that it opened possibility

853
00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:19,859
for them and in a way

854
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,700
that after seeing what they saw anything

855
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,200
was possible

856
00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:27,359
and that has really influenced their

857
00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:28,920
lives now you know they both looked at

858
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,300
greater universities in the United

859
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,400
States and

860
00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:34,319
um just doing good work for people

861
00:46:39,650 --> 00:46:37,079
there's many like that which I

862
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:39,660
I think comes from that um encounter

863
00:46:43,309 --> 00:46:41,130
that thing that happened

864
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:43,319
[Music]

865
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:43,980
um

866
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:45,540
so

867
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:47,700
do you guys know of the form there are

868
00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:51,119
several that um people can go to to

869
00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:57,410
for Witnesses uh yes the UFO according

870
00:47:04,210 --> 00:47:01,140
Center that's Bob evil I believe is that

871
00:47:14,090 --> 00:47:06,960
I don't know I mean

872
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:14,990
[Music]

873
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:21,710
well there's uh um there's an um a

874
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:25,020
support group that's uh

875
00:47:29,809 --> 00:47:28,140
yeah Stuart Davis I believe that's his

876
00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:29,819
name and uh

877
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,460
he's doing some great work uh because

878
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:34,079
it's just you know he gets so much

879
00:47:40,010 --> 00:47:36,960
blacked about things around us

880
00:47:41,870 --> 00:47:40,020
but I I've met that man and he's doing

881
00:47:42,829 --> 00:47:41,880
good work so people can talk to each

882
00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:42,839
other

883
00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:44,339
it's just

884
00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:49,140
film about how you just you know

885
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,400
so even people that maybe in this like

886
00:47:58,430 --> 00:47:55,200
the kids in the class they don't talk

887
00:47:59,150 --> 00:47:58,440
about all of each other that much

888
00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:59,160
um

889
00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:01,380
because it disturbs them on the inside

890
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:03,540
you know

891
00:48:07,550 --> 00:48:04,500
um

892
00:48:09,770 --> 00:48:07,560
so anyway I see that uh

893
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,780
and I and I really want to put some work

894
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,240
into helping people go through the

895
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,680
process of

896
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:16,079
but you can go through when this happens

897
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:18,180
because it's very similar to a lot of

898
00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:19,020
traumas

899
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:22,560
but there are some unique uh

900
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:25,440
parts that are unique to this kind of

901
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,460
event

902
00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:28,800
yeah yeah and one of them is that your

903
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:32,819
kid goes wow has that John Max had a

904
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,339
ontological shock yes yes so we'll have

905
00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:37,440
to fold a new reality into your existing

906
00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:40,140
reality and these kids were not very

907
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:42,119
tainted like when I talked to some

908
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:46,440
acidic she was kind of like oh so this

909
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:47,940
is part of life all right my parents

910
00:48:52,609 --> 00:48:51,180
didn't tell me about that but okay cool

911
00:48:55,609 --> 00:48:52,619
um whereas when you're older it's like

912
00:48:59,410 --> 00:48:55,619
no you're you can't take this

913
00:49:02,089 --> 00:48:59,420
um this is a comment not a question

914
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:02,099
I came to see this because of my

915
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:04,140
personal experience seeing the UFO

916
00:49:09,170 --> 00:49:07,079
across other than uh one other person

917
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:09,180
I've met who had the same experience I

918
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:11,940
wanted to say Bangladesh having so many

919
00:49:16,130 --> 00:49:14,880
children see the same thing tonight is

920
00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:16,140
validation

921
00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:18,180
nice yeah how do you guys feel about

922
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:24,530
yeah I think it's important I mean I

923
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:26,280
think that you know one of the things we

924
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:29,220
really try to focus on is is the impact

925
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:32,460
after not the event and that's what

926
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:34,560
Emily brought and what she brought out

927
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:37,859
from her experience and I think that's

928
00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:40,140
the humanity of it

929
00:49:43,609 --> 00:49:40,740
um

930
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:43,619
you know and and I'm glad that that is

931
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,180
helpful to people that have had that

932
00:49:49,490 --> 00:49:47,520
experience and I just hope that if you

933
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:49,500
haven't or you're interested in this

934
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,720
topic that you just have some more

935
00:49:59,390 --> 00:49:54,240
compassion for people who tell you that

936
00:50:04,970 --> 00:50:02,270
yeah uh Whitley I know that this has

937
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:04,980
been a big cause for you that when you

938
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:08,099
receive thousands of letters

939
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:11,339
um uh and came in and helped you uh sort

940
00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:13,020
through this when you were kind of um

941
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:15,540
dubious of Titan on such a huge

942
00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:18,780
undertaking and you published that I

943
00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:20,940
believe as well on what was that like

944
00:50:24,650 --> 00:50:23,099
what was when you responded what was the

945
00:50:27,790 --> 00:50:24,660
feedback the feelings that you got from

946
00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:31,430
uh can you repeat the end last couple of

947
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,920
sentences they faded out sure so when

948
00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:37,140
you received all these letters from your

949
00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:38,520
books

950
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:40,619
um over the years and especially at the

951
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:43,079
beginning you received a huge order

952
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:45,240
thousands and thousands of letters from

953
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:47,400
other people who had experienced this

954
00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:49,380
when you responded

955
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:53,339
what was their response to you listening

956
00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:01,190
well when we were receiving

957
00:51:07,010 --> 00:51:05,220
well over a thousand letters a day

958
00:51:08,089 --> 00:51:07,020
there's quite a few of them didn't get a

959
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:08,099
response

960
00:51:13,870 --> 00:51:10,920
but and being and

961
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:13,880
a surprising number did

962
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:46,670
by it and she hired a secretary of Lori

963
00:51:53,150 --> 00:51:48,359
Burns and they proceeded to go through

964
00:51:55,309 --> 00:51:53,160
the letters and she evolved a method of

965
00:51:58,250 --> 00:51:55,319
of cataloging them

966
00:52:01,130 --> 00:51:58,260
they typed thousands of them

967
00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:01,140
and the whole thing ended up at Rice

968
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:03,900
University at the in The Archives of the

969
00:52:06,589 --> 00:52:05,220
impossible

970
00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:06,599
and

971
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,280
not all of the letters but an

972
00:52:13,609 --> 00:52:11,280
appreciable number of them at least 10

973
00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:13,619
000 probably more

974
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:16,980
so they were preserved

975
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:21,300
now when people realized that

976
00:52:26,809 --> 00:52:23,880
I'll tell you it I don't think that

977
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:26,819
their resp my sending them letters and

978
00:52:32,030 --> 00:52:29,040
their response was all the most

979
00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:32,040
important I'm not an important part of

980
00:52:39,410 --> 00:52:33,059
it

981
00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:39,420
after another people responded to that

982
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:42,059
face to those big black eyes

983
00:52:47,569 --> 00:52:45,000
it was like a mnemonic device it it

984
00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:47,579
caused them to remember things

985
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:50,099
that they had that had been buried it

986
00:52:56,930 --> 00:52:53,579
was like a trigger of some sort

987
00:52:59,930 --> 00:52:56,940
and that was why so many people wrote

988
00:53:02,049 --> 00:52:59,940
about it that was actually was the first

989
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:02,059
moment of contact was a moment of

990
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,980
realization on the part of all of these

991
00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:06,480
people that hey

992
00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:09,240
something very strange happened to me it

993
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:11,460
wasn't just a nightmare it was something

994
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:12,540
else

995
00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:14,280
and yet

996
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:17,640
at the same time it you you if you were

997
00:53:24,890 --> 00:53:20,460
thinking well it was the generation of

998
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:24,900
folklore or uh suggestion it would have

999
00:53:31,069 --> 00:53:27,680
been a flood of letters that were

1000
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:31,079
similar describing experiences similar

1001
00:53:35,390 --> 00:53:32,160
to mine

1002
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:35,400
but in fact the letters describing

1003
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:37,760
abductions were quite rare

1004
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:42,240
the actual experience is infinitely more

1005
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:45,599
complicated than that involving just all

1006
00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:48,240
kinds of different types of interaction

1007
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:49,800
with the visitors

1008
00:53:57,410 --> 00:53:53,700
so it's it's under the surface

1009
00:53:59,630 --> 00:53:57,420
it's far more complex and far richer

1010
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,640
than we have allowed ourselves to

1011
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:02,160
believe because we've got a situation

1012
00:54:07,309 --> 00:54:04,800
where in the UFO Community they will

1013
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:07,319
filter out things that don't fit their

1014
00:54:12,049 --> 00:54:09,839
expectations in the scientific Community

1015
00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:12,059
they filter out everything

1016
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:14,760
uh the government lies about this

1017
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:18,000
because in fact it is true and they know

1018
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,500
it and they can't do anything about it

1019
00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:22,020
and they don't understand it and that's

1020
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,260
not a healthy combination when it comes

1021
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,079
to a military organization like the Air

1022
00:54:32,329 --> 00:54:30,240
Force that's supposed to protect us from

1023
00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:32,339
threats from the from above

1024
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,780
and

1025
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:35,760
um they can't even tell us whether this

1026
00:54:41,210 --> 00:54:38,000
is a threat or not

1027
00:54:42,829 --> 00:54:41,220
the parent is from above but that's not

1028
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,839
even entirely clear

1029
00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:45,119
so

1030
00:54:52,450 --> 00:54:48,920
uh I can't say that

1031
00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:52,460
when I responded to

1032
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,540
individuals that that was all that

1033
00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:57,359
important to them what was important to

1034
00:55:01,609 --> 00:54:58,140
them

1035
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,619
was getting their story on paper getting

1036
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:03,839
it out realizing something had really

1037
00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:06,420
happened to me sitting down and writing

1038
00:55:10,010 --> 00:55:07,940
that down

1039
00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:10,020
that is

1040
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:11,839
the the

1041
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:17,040
real record of contact is those letters

1042
00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:25,549
um are there any plans to make public

1043
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:29,160
the archive footage all the interviews

1044
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,380
uh the archive letters are you talking

1045
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:33,900
to me oh not start talking to uh well

1046
00:55:37,490 --> 00:55:35,579
whoever wants to uh take us but it's

1047
00:55:39,530 --> 00:55:37,500
probably a random question with regards

1048
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,540
to all the John footage on the aerial

1049
00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:42,960
exposure a uh a plan to release that to

1050
00:55:48,829 --> 00:55:45,720
the uh make it available in archive uh

1051
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,839
not yet but I you know people own this

1052
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:49,920
footage

1053
00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:53,280
that you post okay uh people own this

1054
00:55:57,890 --> 00:55:56,700
footage seven different people I had the

1055
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:57,900
license system

1056
00:56:04,609 --> 00:56:01,920
so I'd love to do that that would be

1057
00:56:06,290 --> 00:56:04,619
I mean it's just there's so much of it

1058
00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:06,300
was great

1059
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:08,940
um but I don't know how to do that you

1060
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:10,800
know one thing wise I'd have to pay for

1061
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:13,260
all that's really expensive

1062
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,160
um

1063
00:56:18,530 --> 00:56:16,079
and

1064
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:18,540
yeah but in my intention would be to

1065
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,220
share that

1066
00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:22,640
um I have a friend doing a

1067
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,800
behavioral study essentially it's really

1068
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:27,359
amazing

1069
00:56:30,589 --> 00:56:28,079
um

1070
00:56:32,170 --> 00:56:30,599
on all these kids their body language

1071
00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:32,180
their

1072
00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:36,420
all kinds of different factors and um

1073
00:56:43,609 --> 00:56:38,579
that I would like to think public as

1074
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:47,270
very small actions of other movements

1075
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:50,760
that they made that signal truth

1076
00:56:54,589 --> 00:56:52,740
um or to set you know

1077
00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:54,599
it's mainly the truth but they're

1078
00:56:58,990 --> 00:56:56,940
there's a it's a whole scientist

1079
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,000
deception the truth

1080
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:02,160
to the body and all movements um and I

1081
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:04,140
want to put out a shout out to Sean

1082
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:07,760
great for the month of his hello

1083
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:10,200
just trying to sell something in there

1084
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:13,380
okay so um we're gonna wrap it up here

1085
00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:14,460
guys

1086
00:57:19,609 --> 00:57:17,160
um this is an amazing uh audience that

1087
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:19,619
is to stay here usually they slowly

1088
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:21,300
start to leave all of you guys up in the

1089
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:23,280
glue to your seats there's probably glue

1090
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,839
on your suits right now which is why you

1091
00:57:30,049 --> 00:57:26,160
haven't left

1092
00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:30,059
um so I just want to say where do where

1093
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:31,800
do people who are listening to this in

1094
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,900
the world in general how do they see

1095
00:57:40,010 --> 00:57:36,240
your guys film

1096
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:40,020
uh right now we have it um through our

1097
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:43,500
website that goes for Vimeo uh the

1098
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:50,450
and then we're very soon deciding on a

1099
00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:51,599
major cloud

1100
00:57:58,370 --> 00:57:57,410
I'm going through a lot of decision

1101
00:58:02,770 --> 00:57:58,380
making

1102
00:58:09,350 --> 00:58:02,780
and then also when's the right time

1103
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:15,849
[Music]

1104
00:58:19,250 --> 00:58:17,630
you know

1105
00:58:21,890 --> 00:58:19,260
that was one of my goals from the

1106
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:21,900
beginning once I was

1107
00:58:26,510 --> 00:58:25,440
99 of this

1108
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:26,520
um

1109
00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:28,680
I wanted to share her and tell my wall

1110
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:30,660
in my heart and where I started up the

1111
00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:32,940
film you know to share this over the

1112
00:58:37,609 --> 00:58:35,880
world and if I have to travel all around

1113
00:58:39,170 --> 00:58:37,619
the world I'll do it

1114
00:58:41,329 --> 00:58:39,180
I just think it's one of those stories

1115
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,339
that it's kind of important

1116
00:58:46,730 --> 00:58:43,440
oh

1117
00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:46,740
yeah Christopher

1118
00:58:53,890 --> 00:58:50,099
um what is uh what are both of you guys

1119
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:53,900
up to next what is your next project

1120
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:57,540
it's not UFO related currently I mean I

1121
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,839
do a lot of things uh Chinese

1122
00:59:03,890 --> 00:59:02,400
surveillance days uh and Community

1123
00:59:06,670 --> 00:59:03,900
quality and the need for organized

1124
00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:06,680
laborers you know

1125
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,180
and uh yeah so all right uh what are you

1126
00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:13,920
up to uh Randall next what's your next

1127
00:59:18,890 --> 00:59:15,480
uh

1128
00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:18,900
I have two or three other films that I

1129
00:59:22,849 --> 00:59:20,819
already shot

1130
00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:22,859
while I was in Zimbabwe I also

1131
00:59:25,549 --> 00:59:24,780
interviewed anybody else that had a

1132
00:59:28,010 --> 00:59:25,559
story

1133
00:59:30,890 --> 00:59:28,020
about this phenomenon so

1134
00:59:34,250 --> 00:59:30,900
hundreds of interviews from

1135
00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:34,260
kind of the research phase of me making

1136
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:35,400
this film

1137
00:59:41,230 --> 00:59:38,160
I need to give everybody that I thought

1138
00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:41,240
was credible or having incredible stance

1139
00:59:49,250 --> 00:59:45,960
in the world and uh and and not

1140
00:59:50,930 --> 00:59:49,260
um so there's several I haven't decided

1141
00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:50,940
on it because I'm so busy still with

1142
00:59:56,089 --> 00:59:53,640
this project but I look forward to it I

1143
00:59:59,390 --> 00:59:56,099
can't wait to take my first shot

1144
01:00:01,789 --> 00:59:59,400
you know roll camera for the first time

1145
01:00:02,990 --> 01:00:01,799
it's always exciting particularly when

1146
01:00:05,170 --> 01:00:03,000
you don't know where you're going and

1147
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:05,180
how the film's ever going to end up

1148
01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:07,980
but I'm kind of excited about that

1149
01:00:13,609 --> 01:00:10,859
give me something new so it's not an

1150
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,619
area school part two and three day uh I

1151
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,319
could easily do a narrow school part two

1152
01:00:20,210 --> 01:00:18,000
you know

1153
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,220
love to show all the other interviews

1154
01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:22,559
uh and the making of it because during

1155
01:00:27,770 --> 01:00:25,680
the whole I mean I'm in Africa for I

1156
01:00:29,089 --> 01:00:27,780
lived there about a year to three months

1157
01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:29,099
and

1158
01:00:43,309 --> 01:00:36,420
southern Africa alone with uh 40 or 50

1159
01:00:43,319 --> 01:00:48,130
um but it was uh

1160
01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:52,430
and so many stories uh but the making of

1161
01:00:56,270 --> 01:00:54,540
is actually a really interesting story

1162
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,280
because I shop at it

1163
01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:58,319
and uh

1164
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:00,780
it was a ride so I think I think it

1165
01:01:04,130 --> 01:01:03,540
would be a really interesting story

1166
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:04,140
um

1167
01:01:12,530 --> 01:01:09,359
for sure just following what we all did

1168
01:01:13,970 --> 01:01:12,540
um yeah so and I you know I've had some

1169
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:13,980
ideas I've learned I went to keep

1170
01:01:19,730 --> 01:01:16,020
secrets now though

1171
01:01:24,410 --> 01:01:21,890
because of the way you mentioned an idea

1172
01:01:25,549 --> 01:01:24,420
in the wrong room you'll stay at the

1173
01:01:27,950 --> 01:01:25,559
movie theater

1174
01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:27,960
and somebody else will do it

1175
01:01:31,490 --> 01:01:29,400
uh fortunately I have to learn that

1176
01:01:36,650 --> 01:01:33,650
but

1177
01:01:39,069 --> 01:01:36,660
I look forward to it and I'd love to

1178
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:39,079
work with this guy again for sure

1179
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:42,960
and uh I'm learning new friends like

1180
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:45,119
this guy he's a filmmaker and we love

1181
01:01:48,589 --> 01:01:46,680
his work

1182
01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:48,599
that's that's the money that I'm not

1183
01:01:51,770 --> 01:01:50,280
exaggerating at all

1184
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,780
right brother I didn't see that I don't

1185
01:01:56,829 --> 01:01:53,280
have your card so I guess that that's

1186
01:02:02,510 --> 01:01:56,839
coming from the heart oh yes

1187
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:04,870
[Music]

1188
01:02:10,609 --> 01:02:08,160
it just didn't arrive

1189
01:02:12,170 --> 01:02:10,619
um and I I was like upset about it and

1190
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:12,180
then I was like you know that's not

1191
01:02:15,770 --> 01:02:13,440
important at all

1192
01:02:18,589 --> 01:02:15,780
compared to what time's doing this yeah

1193
01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:18,599
but

1194
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:21,000
um we're gonna have merchandise online

1195
01:02:25,849 --> 01:02:22,799
a lot of people love the t-shirts or the

1196
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:25,859
hats and I like I love the pad this is

1197
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:27,540
aerial school this is an aerial scroll

1198
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,000
pack that's what are you doing that's

1199
01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:32,640
pretty incredible yeah and uh we'll have

1200
01:02:42,049 --> 01:02:40,549
yeah so anyway I'm really glad that you

1201
01:02:43,730 --> 01:02:42,059
guys are here for this conversation

1202
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:43,740
thank you and I also want to thank

1203
01:02:52,220 --> 01:02:46,079
Whitney streamer thank you so much for

1204
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,210
[Music]

1205
01:03:02,950 --> 01:02:57,839
someone coming soon that's going to drop

1206
01:03:08,569 --> 01:03:05,930
hundreds of people today phoned the zbc

1207
01:03:11,569 --> 01:03:08,579
saying they cited an unidentifying

1208
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:11,579
flying object with a bright Radiant Life

1209
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:12,960
I've never seen anything like it in my

1210
01:03:17,809 --> 01:03:15,119
life it was the absence of noise people

1211
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:17,819
from all over Zimbabwe referring the BBC

1212
01:03:22,370 --> 01:03:20,400
to say we've seen something weird there

1213
01:03:28,730 --> 01:03:22,380
were three of us that saw it myself the

1214
01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:33,530
aerial School 19th September 94.

1215
01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:35,460
would you tell me what you saw on Friday

1216
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:42,829
is bigger running his his face was like

1217
01:03:47,329 --> 01:03:45,359
this and his eyes were down here I just

1218
01:03:49,970 --> 01:03:47,339
thought it was some kind of alien from a

1219
01:03:51,049 --> 01:03:49,980
different game when he looks at those

1220
01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:51,059
children

1221
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,180
they were absolutely credible and

1222
01:03:58,250 --> 01:03:56,400
whereabouts was it and the trees over

1223
01:04:00,289 --> 01:03:58,260
there there was a big group of kids

1224
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:00,299
pointing and making a noise and shouting

1225
01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:03,359
and screaming the Panic spread am I safe

1226
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:05,160
or am I not safe he's a Harvard

1227
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:08,160
psychiatrist meet Dr John Mack a

1228
01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:10,920
believer in aliens from outer space we

1229
01:04:15,170 --> 01:04:12,660
came away convincing an extraordinary

1230
01:04:17,569 --> 01:04:15,180
event occurred here I think they want

1231
01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:17,579
people to know that we're actually

1232
01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:20,700
making harm on this world how did that

1233
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:23,579
get communicated to you came through my

1234
01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:25,680
head somehow there was a message about

1235
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:28,440
pollution from the way he was staring oh

1236
01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:32,400
I was just fine hard ass journalist I

1237
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:34,140
could handle War zones but I could not

1238
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:36,720
handle this UFO thing I mean I never

1239
01:04:41,650 --> 01:04:39,599
felt this could derail my career the

1240
01:04:45,170 --> 01:04:41,660
dean wanted to know what is he doing

1241
01:04:47,390 --> 01:04:45,180
Angels yes extraterrestrials no China's

1242
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:47,400
Lost at this time

1243
01:04:53,030 --> 01:04:50,640
this journey is literally to pick up the

1244
01:04:55,130 --> 01:04:53,040
pieces and put them back together

1245
01:04:57,410 --> 01:04:55,140
oh my gosh

1246
01:04:59,450 --> 01:04:57,420
I was right on the logs when it actually

1247
01:05:00,480 --> 01:04:59,460
happened we are the ones who drew those

1248
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:00,490
funny pictures

1249
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:02,640
[Music]

1250
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:05,280
something that I'll never ever forget

1251
01:05:09,710 --> 01:05:08,160
I've drawn this again which I usually

1252
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:09,720
kept it quiet people think you're crazy

1253
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:11,280
my husband doesn't even know about it

1254
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:15,540
you feel so alone in society

1255
01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:18,240
why is it we tend to want to shrink this

1256
01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:20,940
powerful phenomenon to our Notions of

1257
01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:22,680
reality rather than being able to

1258
01:05:28,190 --> 01:05:25,619
stretch ourselves to expand what we know

1259
01:05:31,370 --> 01:05:28,200
and to admit that we don't know

1260
01:05:33,250 --> 01:05:31,380
would you like to see him again yes and

1261
01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:33,260
if you saw him again what would you do

1262
01:05:37,370 --> 01:05:35,940
I'll ask him some questions what would

1263
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:37,380
you like to ask him